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Posted: Feb 19, 2006 13:18:14

this is firework shell anatomy made by me :


Posted: Feb 20, 2006 10:24:54

Hey Jerome,

Nice picture, but do you think you can show me the different aspects and concepts/parts that make it up? In other words, can you explain it by sort of "disecting" it piece by piece, such as the different chemicals, etc.

Just of curiosity, are you going to be a pyrotechnician, Jerome? You seem to know plenty in the field! That's great, I think!

Trav.


Posted: Feb 20, 2006 12:18:10

hey trav yes i am apprentice pyrotechnician i make some firework with professionnal.example i make the show with royal pyrotechnie at boucherville island at june 23.



Posted: Feb 20, 2006 12:19:34

hey trav yes i am apprentice pyrotechnician i make some firework with professionnal.example i make the show with royal pyrotechnie at boucherville island at june 23.And i to complicated to talk about shell in detail but the main chemical is blackpowder,and flash powder.



jerome


Posted: Feb 20, 2006 12:43:50

hey this is the roman candle for genève firework display !!!!!!!!


jérome


Posted: Feb 21, 2006 09:37:19

Hey Jerome,

Thank you for the pictures. In the last picture, are all of those materials in the back roman candles, or different types of them?

And yes, I think it's absolutely fabulous that you help out with professional displays! I really had do idea!

Trav.


Posted: Feb 22, 2006 08:14:41

hey i make 2 55mm shell lately this is the pic:


jerome


Posted: Feb 23, 2006 12:53:16

Hey Jerome,

Are all the shell sizes wrapped up like that? They look like mini hot air balloons! Oh yes, can you also show me a pic of the effect when it's launched?

Thanks,

Trav.


Posted: Feb 25, 2006 08:54:23

ah all shell like hot air ballon because the sphere is the effect and
the cylindrical part is the lift charge.this is the pic of the burst:
55mm yellow stars:


55mm titanium salute:


jerome


Posted: Feb 25, 2006 12:56:37

Hey Jerome,

Thanks for the information on the shell design. Now I understand why they look like that! So, basically, it's easy to recognize a shell because of it's formation.

Trav.


Posted: Feb 26, 2006 08:52:55   Edited by: PyroDan

Hi Jerome,

Congradulations on becoming a pyrotechnician . I have a few questions for you. How is it being a pyro? I bet it's lots of heavy and stressful work. Also, how is the salary (sorry if I'm being a bit rude ). The reason why I ask is because I would like to get my pyrotechnic licence in order to work with the staff at La Ronde. I would start by working at night getting the site ready for the next firm, but it would be a hell of an interesting start . Is there anything specific in becoming a pyro? Any qualifications required (well besides getting the licence)? BTW, what qualifications do you need to become a pyro designer/creator/programmer. My background is in software engineering. Any answers would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance, Jerome.

Dan


Posted: Feb 26, 2006 08:54:13   Edited by: PyroDan

sorry for the double post


Posted: Feb 26, 2006 12:11:10

hello dan i whrite my text in french because is too long for me to explain.
bon le métier d'artificier n'est pas une job facile.il faut pelleter du sable,porter des boîtes,faire les branchements etc ce métier ce fait dans les 4 saisons alors il peut y arriver qu'il faut que tu prépare un feux a l'extérieur a - 40°c ce qui n'est pas facile,le salaire dépendra de l,expérience que tu as dans la pyrotechnie et dans la firme que tu iras.tu peut travailler a temp partiel ou a temp plein.comme par exemple,moi je veux aller artificier pour travailler dans une fabrique de feux d'artifice et les allumers en gros j'veux aller maître artificier.pour devenir artificier il y a rien de plus faciles,
tu doit juste aller prendre un cours d'une journée offert par la division de la règlementation des explosifs (DRE)ce cour d'une journée seras basé sur la sécurité dans la pyrotechnie,durant ce cours ont te donneras le manuel de l'artificier.pour t'inscrire voici le site : http://www.nrcan-rncan.gc.ca/mms/explosif/edu/edu_displayA_f.htm

et par après il te faut la carte de la sûreté du québec si tu veux manipuler les poudres et explosifs.enfin bref, après le cour t,as juste a contacter une firme qui t'engageras.Il n'y a pas de formation,l'expérience seras ta formation.le travail d'équipe est très présent lors d'un montage du feux d'artifice.tu devras mapinuler beaucoup d'outil (ciseaux,ruban adhésif etc).tu connaîtra d'autre firme d'ailleur dans le monde.tu devras suivre leur méthode de montage car chaque pay a une méthode différente
enfin bref il faut que t'aime vraiment la pyrotechnie sinon tu trouveras sa épuisant et long.moi je n'ai que 15 ans,mais c,est rare a mon âge que je suits vraiment passioné et de j'ai une bibliothèque de connaissance.j'ai des amis artificier qui sont très surpris de mes connaissances,alors il m'on engagé pour faire un feux d'artifice le 23 juin pour la fête de la saint-jean.dans le québec il y a plusieurs firme:concept fiatlux,ampleman pyrotechnie,BEM pyrotechnie,royal pyrotechnie etc.en tout cas ne t'inquiète pas les artificier sont en demande parce que il en manque !!!! en tout cas c,est tout ce que j'avais a dire sur le métier d'artificier.

salut

jérôme


Posted: Feb 26, 2006 14:03:33

Hi Jerome,

Wow, some really interesting stuff! I'm still interested . Actually, you increased my interest . I wonder if a company will hire me for 2 and a half months only. The reason why I ask is because I'm going to Italy this summer to visit my family. I'm leaving the 16 of July and returning August 18 (I think ). I'm planning on getting my licence in the end of April or beginning of May when I finish University. Also, I didn't know the demand was high for pyros. BTW, do you guys travel together when assembling displays or do you meet up?

Dan


Posted: Feb 26, 2006 14:34:39

euh i not sure about this.but send me a message or chat with you with msn : jgem2@hotmail.com


Posted: Feb 26, 2006 18:00:06

Hi Jerome,

I've tried sending you an email but it gets returned to me. Add my email in your contacts list (or whatever Hotmail uses). BTW, it's ok if you don't know. I greatly appreciate your help. I'm just curious how a firm displaces themselves from show to show. I always thought they behave as a family. I may be wrong .

Dan
danpollutro@videotron.ca


Posted: Feb 27, 2006 06:10:20

ah ok your try jgem2@hotmail.com ? because jgem4@hotmail.com is false.

jerome


Posted: Feb 27, 2006 20:04:45

Hello Dan,

I'm very happy to hear that you want to acquire your license in pyrotechnics. I was considering it for a time, but I'm far too inexperienced and lack many requirements, for sure. To be honest with you, I was actually thinking and imagining you as a pyrotechnician before hand since last year for some odd reason. Perhaps it was either because you were a judge and that probably acted as a catalyst in boosting your interest. Also, I'm more than certain that Jerome can explain many things to you as he does have the experience. Finally, I, too, didn't know that the demand for pyros was at such a high rate.

Anyhow, I think that's very good for you. I think you'll do fine in this field, that is, if you should ever decide to persuade into it at great depth. However, I see that you are going on vacation, but the problem is that you're going to miss Panzera and some other shows prior to that. I guess there's no way to circumvent around it, but it's no big deal. If nothing changes, we'll be sure to all give extensive reports for you to read!

As for university, well, oh boy, March is going to be busy for both of us. I've got term papers due all over the place, not to mention my exam schedule is already popping up.

Regards,

Trav.


Posted: Feb 28, 2006 09:49:53   Edited by: PyroDan

Hi Trav.

Thanks for reminding me to check my exam schedule. It's terrible . I have two programming finals both back too back at night . Well, at least I'll finish with a bang . Talk about a intense finale... Anyways, it seems it is very hard even for La Ronde to hire pyros. Yesterday, I spoke with the team at La Ronde and Paul (Master pyro, great guy btw) said that the turnover is very low. He said that to get a job as a pyro for the festival, you must have a very good background and be recommended by follow pyros. He suggested for me to start small by working with BEM, Ampleman (which is actually located close to my house), Royal (a bit to far), and Concept Flatiux. He said that it should be pretty easy to get hired for ST. Jean Bat. and for Canada Day (I wonder why ). Anyways, all new pyros must start from scratch, I guess. BTW Jerome, do you work only in the summer? You have my blessings if you also work in the winter . Take care.

Dan


Posted: Mar 1, 2006 12:56:17

hey nice done dan !
yes i just work in the summer for the moment but in less 2 year i work for all season !

jerome


Posted: Mar 2, 2006 11:27:34

Hey Dan,

I just checked my schedule and it looks reasonable but is rather abysmal as I do have exams back to back for the latter half. My last exam is on May 2nd.

Anyways, it sounds like there's quite a bit of requirements to become a pyro. However, have you ever worked with or handled fireworks before, Dan? (besides the time when you were a judge.)

Trav.


Posted: Mar 2, 2006 14:20:18

Hi Trav,

Well, each year I buy fireworks to celebrate Canada Day and St Jean Bap but I've never handled (well, fired) professional pieces before. As a matter of fact, I still have some fireworks in my room (relax, they're in a white box clearly marked with an explosives logo on it ). I have some fontains, roman candles, titanium salutes (calme down guys, it's the small ones ) a cake that fires 20 flowers (sorry, Chrysanthemum effect according to Mystical fireworks), and some mortar that should blast out a comet followed by 32 firecrackers, and best of all hummeroos (ahh God bless them). So all in all, yes I did handle fireworks.

Also, I spoke with Eric Cardinale (designer for Ampleman) and he's willing to put me on the list for canada day and st. Jean. I'm only missing my licence! Anyways, can't wait for summer this year!!!

Dan


Posted: Mar 5, 2006 17:14:33

Hey Jérome, Essaie de ne pas mettre tes allumettes directement dans le cul ( la chasse ) de ta bombe!! C'est dangereux lors du déminage ou même quand tu la mets dans le mortier!!! Si ta bombe est au fond du mortier au déminage et qu'elle n'est pas partit, et si tu tire sur ton allumettes pour pouvoir la déminé et que le squib sort dela chasse et vient se coinçé entre le mortier et la bombe.... bien çà marche pas fort.
Fait juste attention à ta gueule devant le mortier puis mets de la mèches entre la bombe et ton squib ( allumettes ). Anyway, à ta place, je ne parlerais pas trop de tes expériences si veux avoir ou conserver ton certificat de pyro ou d'artificier. On ne veut pas que des expériences tournent mal pour des individus et qu'après la DRE augmente les normes de sécurité et les lois pour la manipulation et la possession d'explosifs.

Salut

Take care

BenHur


Posted: Mar 6, 2006 10:25:37

oui c'est sûr que c'est pas prudent de poser une allumette dans le cul de la chasse.j'aurait juste a changer la méthode

jerome


Posted: Mar 9, 2006 14:21:39

Hi Dan,

It would be reasonable to interpret that you're quite equipted! I was actually somewhat concerned about all that you have in terms of danger, but I did "calm down" after your specifications! But still, be very careful! At the same time, you do have quite a bit of experience, if we look at your exposure to pyrotechic concepts and the mere fact that you've been working with a good portion of non-professional material, which is a really good start.

Nothing pleases me more than to see those smaller local displays on St-Jean Baptiste and Canada Day. I'm hoping we still get those displays this year in my area since it is both convenient and spectacular to watch, not to mention having easy access in being close to the firing site.

Any luck with the license acquisition, Dan? Please keep me informed about it since I do find it interesting that you're so into this field! I'll be more than happy when you get it.

All the best!

Trav.


Posted: Mar 13, 2006 06:46:10

Hey Trav,

To tell you the truth, I'm really interested in the technology used to fire the shells. After carefully looking at the display setups at La Ronde, I noticed that a look of wire gets used and wasted. Why not just use a wireless firing system? By sending the signal remotely, the pyrotechnicians would save miles of wire. The only wire needed would be ONE electrical wire to supply the electrical charge. One of the firing systems (FireOne) uses regular RJ45 wiring (same as ethernet cable). Based on the success of WIFI (wireless internet), the connection could be very easily modifed to connect modules instead of computers. Anyways, just my 2 cents . The only problem could be signal loss during rain. However, that's rare (I have a wireless network at home). Also, by having less wires to connect, the roman candles and fountains could be sent to Montreal pre-assembled. The same is not entirely true for large shells since it gets a little dangerous. Less wires = more space = less setup time = less workers = money saved = more fireworks = less wires ... . Tell me if it makes since Paul . BTW Trav, still didn't get my licence. BTW, this would be a part time job. I'm planning to work at Ubisoft or EA as a video game programmer (engine coding).

Dan


Posted: Mar 13, 2006 08:03:01

BTW, I forgot to mention that with a wireless firing system, NO MORE SEVERED WIRES! That means no more ruined finales or sequences due to corrupted data. Anyways, I think it's important.

Dan


Posted: Mar 16, 2006 17:26:58

Hi Dan,

I see what you're saying and what you want to do. It seems really fascinating that you want to do this sort of thing. But I wanted to emphasize your thought about the excessive use of wires. It's a true fact that a wireless firing system would present greater convenience than having all those wires around. It's also true that you'd have a greater capacity for set up purposes, which is a good thing. And, like you clearly said, there's also a higher risk where something could go wrong, such as wire damage in a sector(s).

It's obvious that these things will help improve both time management and the quality of the shows. However, I think that wireless firing systems could also pose a problem, particularly in potential transmission failures. However, it is clear that the advantages that the wireless features possesses advantages that easily surpass it's disadvantages as well as that of the wired system.

This is a very insightful idea you propose, Dan. To be honest, I'm surprised this hasn't been implemented yet considering technological advances. I'm sure, however, that there must be a reason, but I don't see why it isn't being done considering that it especially saves excess labour. Keep in mind that weather is another problem, which probably contributes to the greatest threat to exposed wires, but moreso the set up time. This is what happened to Sweden and Australia last year when they were setting up. And that got me thinking, especially when Sweden's finale was supposed to be much bigger!

Video game programmer? Well, I still love video games with a passion, my friend. That's a very popular thing to do!

Regards,

Trav.


Posted: Mar 17, 2006 19:29:59   Edited by: PyroDan

Wow, just noticed that I had lots of spelling errors. BTW Trav, the reason why companies don't want to use wireless firing systems is because each node (firing module) needs a router (well, more like signal receiving module). Considering each node costs $100 (based on the prices of routers) and the amounts of nodes needed, the advantages go straight to the garbage. Considering a spool of wire costs the price of one module, the costs kill the advantages. However, once the modules are purchased, La Ronde can give them to EVERY company and would level the playing field. I'm sure when the time comes, the shift will be made. Just not yet, unfortunately. We still live in a very money driven world .

Dan


Posted: Mar 18, 2006 10:20:46

Hi Dan,

I still wish there was a way to circumvent around excessive wire use. It's just there's so much potential without them. But, as you said, the truth remains, particularly when we factor in actual costs. Those are valid reasons, I suppose. I didn't know routers were so expensive, too. In any case, I hope there will be another way "in future" for which the nodes don't have to be dependent on routers.

Trav.
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